Wow Steve - You were busy all night
Steve Waite wrote:Oh yes, for someone claiming to know a thing or two about programming, IF10 has a robust logging system, how else could I have made it?
Does IF10 HAVE a log created? IF10 is an independent exe running on my machine (and on ALL other machines). The only log you have pointed me to is to the SimConnect Trace log. While you will definitely be using the Simconnect Logging framework when inside the simulation, where are the log entries "Before" getting into the simulation (from the time I press "Fly Now" to the time IF10 establishes a connection with FSX)? If its there somewhere hidden on my machine, it will really help unravel the problem.
You have also mentioned a couple of times about time-out. Is there a place where IF10 "logs" that it is exiting or "doing nothing" because a timeout occured?
Bottom Line - the logging may be great once in FSX. But there is no log created by IF10 outside of FSX framework. So in situations like these where the "assumed problem" is the user machine setup, you have no way of finding out till what point IF10 reached and where it is stuck. All you are doing is guessing based on the "absense" of logging in the simconnect trace. If there is a log IF10 creates, I have been asking you the question from a long time - please let me know where I can find it !
Steve Waite wrote:Bottom line here is we've refunded someone that say's they've worked day and night on their problem but simply haven't responded with an answer to any one of my suggestions and enquiries, and appear to have strange debug traces from FSX.
Lets not mislead the forum here. Can you please be more specific on what suggestion and enquiries you have made for which I have not taken action or responded?
The only suggestion you have made right from the start is that there is something wrong with my machine. And I have been trying hard to pinpoint that problem with my machine. You have asked me to try running IF10 with only FSX and IF10. I have done that too. As far as the enquiries - if you read my responses, I have answered every question / doubt you have had (IMHO). If there are any I have missed out, let me know. I will definitely try to help. I want this working more that you do. I may be one of the 1000s customers for you. But for me, I have only ONE IF10 product.
Steve Waite wrote:Repeat: If you don't get a menu in IF it is most likely because there is a paused situation when starting up FSX and IF10 decides to time out.
The default behaviour of IF10 is to start-up FSX in paused state. There is an explicit option in the flights settings for this (which I can no longer access because my registration does not work any more - and I am still waiting for my refund). If you think checking this option (start FSX unpaused) would solve my problem, Amen! Please let me know how I can test it on an unregistered version.
For everyone reading this thread: By now you must have realized that Steve is a vehement supporter of IF10 (which is a great product - if it works, and I am sure it does most of the time). He is just so passionate that he is unable to see beyond normal issues and so cannot focus upon trying to solve your problem. He would rather expend his effort defending the product and doubting your intent, truthfulness, and intelligence.
Steve - Lets be adults. If my machine IS that ONE in the 1000s where IF10 does not work, accept it and move on. Dont go about accusing me of not giving enough information or not providing you with evidence enough to prove that SimConnect is working fine on my machine.
And if you can get your head out of the sand to suggest something that will really help me, I am more than happy to listen.
Peace bro !