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Re: fsx se installation

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:45 pm
by Steve Waite
There must have been remnents of FSX still around when you installed FSX-SE, it needs to find none. "fsx-se" is no good, and It will confuse other addons depending on what they do.

Re: fsx se installation

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:09 pm
by Steve Waite
The way to install FSX-SE is either alongside FSX or instead of FSX. So we need to decide which it's going to be. If we leave a working FSX on the system and install FSX-SE we get:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\FSX
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX-SE
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\FSX-SE
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX-SE
cfg:
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX-SE\fsx_se.CFG
documents:
C:\Users\<you>\Documents\Flight Simulator X - Steam Edition Files
pics:
C:\Users\<you>\Pictures\Flight Simulator X - Steam Edition Files

If we want FSX-SE installed to be most compatible with addons (remember few addons know about FSX-SE yet), then we have to install FSX-SE on a fresh system and install the Legacy Interfaces found in the FSX-SE SDK folder. We can install on a system previously having FSX but all traces of FSX must be removed (apart from the simconnect modules which are hard to remove).

So we would need to ensure there are no parts of FSX on the system before we install FSX-SE. We must ensure these folders do not exist before we install FSX-SE:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\FSX
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX
cfg:
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\fsx.CFG
documents:
C:\Users\<you>\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files
pics:
C:\Users\<you>\Pictures\Flight Simulator X Files

When these are removed we can install FSX-SE and it will install to:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX

and the other folders will be the same as FSX:

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\FSX
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX
cfg:
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\fsx.CFG
documents:
C:\Users\<you>\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files
pics:
C:\Users\<you>\Pictures\Flight Simulator X Files

Re: fsx se installation

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:21 pm
by Steve Waite
...So with the single installation of FSX-SE done properly, we can install IF10, and only need to point the FSX folder edit window to: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX", the simconnect system will use the SP1a version 61242.

Re: fsx se installation

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:36 pm
by mhazyidealflight
Hi followed all that including deleting fsxse
Nothing on pc for fsx or fsxse

Still same problem,
Installs as fsx to steam common and is fsx.exe
But....
Appdata/roaming is fsx-se
Local same
Program data same

Wonder if the update on fsxse is now installing this way?
Any ideas
Mike
Is it not possible to change id cfg to fsxse

Re: fsx se installation

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:17 pm
by Steve Waite
I've got various installs of the latest version, but they don't install that way. Only when I installed parallel to FSX do I get those "fsx-se" folders. There's no way to alter the current version of IF10 to suit that situation.

Re: fsx se installation

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:20 pm
by mhazyidealflight
Hi
Just checked again and theres is no fsx present at all
Ive managed to install most other programs into fsxse, from updates,
are you updating yours to work, if so when would this be.

Ive noidea why it is not installing, seems the other guy you gave same info to has same problem

Any help would be great as love using you software
Mike

Re: fsx se installation

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:45 pm
by Steve Waite
IF10 does not recognise folders named "FSX-SE", why would it? So you need to install FSX-SE as FSX so it's the same as FSX, that's what DTG intended, works OK here along with other addons. There's an update [sh] coming shortly which helps with FSX-SE installations, and also a new version [sm] specifically for FSX-SE.

Re: fsx se installation

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:32 pm
by mhazyidealflight
Hi
Once again deleted and reinstalled fsxse, have checked pc before reinstallation for anything with fsx or fsx se and got rid of it.
Same result as ive already reported. Ill just have to wait for your update, any idea when
All the best
Mike

Re: fsx se installation

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:52 pm
by Steve Waite
Well you must have something left on there from FSX. The whole intention of FSX-SE was to look like FSX when installed. But if any component of FSX is found during the install, then the install is elevated to the dual mode. If you've installed FSX-SE in dual mode, then that will have to be removed in full too, before installing.


make sure you got rid of these:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\FSX
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX
cfg:
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\fsx.CFG
documents:
C:\Users\<you>\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files
pics:

C:\Users\<you>\Pictures\Flight Simulator X Files

and see that the registry key is removed:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\microsoft games\flight simulator\10.0



FSX-SE installed parallel to FSX-MS:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\FSX
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\appmanifest_314160.acf
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX-SE
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\FSX-SE
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX-SE
cfg:
C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX-SE\fsx_se.CFG
documents:
C:\Users\<you>\Documents\Flight Simulator X - Steam Edition Files
pics:
C:\Users\<you>\Pictures\Flight Simulator X - Steam Edition Files

registry key (64bit o/s shown)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\DovetailGames\FSX

Re: fsx se installation

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:34 pm
by mhazyidealflight
Hi
Once again your steps copied to the letter
Once again same results

I shall have to wait now for update as it takes 2 hours to delete all and reinstall just back to vanilla, plus adding all addons back
Dont know why it should not work, but I feel ive really give it my best shot
Hope you can sort the update out as really like using ideal flight


Also deleted registry just in case but as ive said no different

Appdata local etc all install as fsx-se, but inside folder of appdata/roaming/microsoft/fsx-se/is fsx.cfg

main software in common/ is fsx and fsx.exe
Thanks
Mike